西班牙籍问题戳制造商重现拍卖网 (peste española)

gabriellm · 发表于 2018-5-18 14:59

- Yes, please, reveal me his shop, for curiosity.
- I am not sanctioned by Asema, I still being member and exhibitor. In fact I have been asked to lend two collection for exhibition. Please, SHOW ME his shop at Taobao.
- I do not sell to Dino or Italo. In fact I promise you that I do not know who they are. True True.
- I would like see what Dino and Italo exhibited as "identical" mine.

Please, let know about all these questions.

ngsunyu · 发表于 2018-5-19 01:10

本帖最后由 ngsunyu 于 2018-5-21 10:43 编辑

gabriellm 发表于 2018-5-18 14:59
- Yes, please, reveal me his shop, for curiosity.
- I am not sanctioned by Asema, I still being mem ...

First , to make sure that we are referring to the same person,
I would need the following info from you:
His eBay ID is Longchine001, correct?
His last name is Li, correct?
His address in Xi Huan Li (street) Chang Ping Qu (district) in Beijing
? correct?
The following are some of his purchases from you:
The number after # refers to previous posts (for example this post is #272).
Turkey #4,
France #257 (by the way, congratulations on a creative matasello and
pretty postcard), his sale price US $606;
Maroc #256 (his sale price US $296),
Second, quid pro quo, ie you need to tell me something for me to
reveal about his shop ie
One simple question, did you refund him for the three Turkey cards
(their prices are $565, $449, $338)?
An optional question: how many other sales from you to him did I miss?
I left out a few on purpose to test your sincerity.
For comparison, his shop has over 10 MEGAFAKES from Italian source.
Yours would be considered works of art compared to those. No wonder
ASEMA may be misled (if indeed your tall tale is true).

首先，为了确保我们指的是同一人，我需要你提供以下信息：
他的eBay ID是 Longchine001，对吗？
他的姓是李，对吗？
他的地址在北京昌平区. 对吗？
以下是他从你那里购买的一些商品：
＃之后的数字指先前的帖子（例如，这个帖子是＃272）。
土耳其＃4，
法国＃257（顺便说一句，创造性邮戳和漂亮的明信片），售价为606美元;
摩洛哥＃256（售价为296美元），
其次，交换条件，即你需要告诉我一些情报，让我透露他的陶宝店.
一个简单题，三枚土耳其（售价为 565美元，449美元，338美元）有否退款？
一个可选题：其他的售品？我故意遗漏了一些来测试你的诚意。
为了比较，他的陶宝店有超过10枚来自意大利的赝品。与那些相比，您的作品将被视为艺术品水平。（如果你的故事确实如此）难怪西班牙极限会没有线索。

ngsunyu · 发表于 2018-5-20 08:00

本帖最后由 ngsunyu 于 2018-5-20 08:02 编辑

2013年中国wgyp2000 没有付钱买此赝品。
现在Vicente在ebay，再次出售此赝品连一枚明信片。
但在18楼，我早就展示他买了两枚相同的明信片。
因此第二枚明信片并不能证明他没有制赝品。
反过来说，以后拍卖品没有完全相同的明信片进一步证明他买了的明信片也许已用于制赝品了。
他也许能骗西班牙极限会没有时间搜索Delcampe 明信片销售记录。不能骗专家或我。

gabriellm · 发表于 2018-5-21 15:10

本帖最后由 gabriellm 于 2018-5-21 16:49 编辑

Hi SunYu:

I remember that longchine buy some at Ebay, but I do not remember what they were. I will check number of posts that you say.
You have published here and other post maxicards that never I have sold, probably other sellers that you are telling I am.

Nothing sold privately, only at Ebay some years ago.

And Syria 1925, I sell the two items, maxicard and postal card, both are different and real items.

gabriellm · 发表于 2018-5-23 00:17

Please SunYu, show me the link to his shop at Taobao.
Also, what are the nicks of Dino and Italo ?

ngsunyu · 发表于 2018-5-25 01:47

本帖最后由 ngsunyu 于 2018-5-25 01:49 编辑

gabriellm 发表于 2018-5-21 15:10
Hi SunYu:

I remember that longchine buy some at Ebay, but I do not remember what they were. I wil ...

You did not answer my question.
did you refund Longchine001 for the three Turkey cards (their prices are $565, $449, $338)?
This is among the largest sale of your infamous career.

，三枚土耳其（售价为 565美元，449美元，338美元）有否退款？

gabriellm · 发表于 2018-5-25 14:13

本帖最后由 gabriellm 于 2018-5-25 22:04 编辑

Yes, I refund them to him as I refund to you, but some of yours where bought in Italy. But he returned the cards, you didn′t it. In fact I′d return payment after receive the cards.
Now please, show me the Taobao shop and nicks of Italo and Dino. Also Sergio had any fake.

ngsunyu · 发表于 2018-5-26 04:30

本帖最后由 ngsunyu 于 2018-5-26 12:18 编辑

his TaoBao 淘宝网 shop name is 盛唐天下. 掌柜：唐行者 Shop opened 2008?

his shop link is
https://shop33772524.taobao.com/ ... mp;pageNo=1#anchor.

You will recognize some of your "creations", just as many Sergio (quite distinct from yours), but still some OK ones (priced beyond reasonable though).

你会认到你的一些“创作”，不少 "意大利邮商"（很容易看出），仍然有些可以 (但价格超出合理范围）。在购买之前，建议专家认证。

gabriellm · 发表于 2018-5-28 19:01

本帖最后由 gabriellm 于 2018-5-28 19:12 编辑

Sunyu, I sold maxicards but they didn′t created by me. Cologne Cathedral at Taobao Shop is extremely ugly.

ngsunyu · 发表于 2018-5-29 04:19

本帖最后由 ngsunyu 于 2018-6-1 07:01 编辑

gabriellm 发表于 2018-5-28 19:01
Sunyu, I sold maxicards but they didn′t created by me. Cologne Cathedral at Taobao Shop is extremel ...

Two possibilities:
Buyers think that expensive items must be good (at least this seller and you believes that), or
Good items are sold soon after listing (what is left is trash).

我能想到两种可能性：
买家认为昂贵的物品是好的（至少他和你认为买家相信这一点) 或. 好物品上市后很快卖出（剩下的是垃圾）。

读者是否会想到其他的可能性？

我看不到淘宝网已经售出的物品，买家请在这里投诉。满意的盛唐天下顾客也可以支持他。不是唐行者的所有东西都是赝品。

ngsunyu · 发表于 2018-7-10 22:48

本帖最后由 ngsunyu 于 2018-7-10 22:50 编辑

希腊可疑品类似此卖家以前的希腊赝品。同一人用假身份和假希腊地址或是他在希腊的弟子？帐户是自愿关闭还是非自愿关闭？所有这些伪戳工，没有业务。

ngsunyu · 发表于 2018-7-10 22:51

本帖最后由 ngsunyu 于 2018-7-10 22:53 编辑

土耳其可疑品类似此卖家以前的土耳其赝品。同一人用假身份和假希腊地址或是他在希腊的弟子？帐户是自愿关闭还是非自愿关闭？所有这些伪戳工，没有业务。

ngsunyu · 发表于 2019-3-2 00:01

本帖最后由 ngsunyu 于 2019-3-2 00:04 编辑

1933年意大利发行了六枚齐柏林飞艇飞往罗马邮票。这枚的邮票是其中之一。我见过二十多枚可疑极限片有这六枚邮票之一。

在易趣标题是 ITALY Zeppelin carte maximum 1933 Maxicard Tomba Cecilia Metella Non viagiatta。标价49.95美元。

这枚可疑戳比多数的意大利邮商粗制滥造可疑戳水平高, 与西班牙邮商仿制复制可疑戳水平相当，几乎可以乱真。

西班牙邮商在Delcampe买明信片来制赝品，从交易记录可以追溯到西班牙邮商的其他账户。

ngsunyu · 发表于 2019-3-2 00:06

本帖最后由 ngsunyu 于 2019-3-2 00:08 编辑

如何证明这邮商是西班牙人，不是法国人(旧假地址是法国)或意大利人(目前假地址是意大利)。真地址仍然是西班牙。

第一, 他买明信片用的Delcampe帐户（现已关闭）属于西班牙邮商。

第二，易趣记录显示他卖了1936年巴黎航空沙龙极限片。没有其他邮商有这枚赝品。请参阅追踪极限赝品进入中国之路第37楼。

这枚是被北京邮商购买。在他的陶宝店铺标题是 0123_法国1936年戳【俯瞰巴黎塞纳河及桥梁】极限片（较真罕！）。标价3800元人民币。这枚是西班牙邮商售北京邮商的巴黎可疑戳。易趣售价103美元 (695元人民币)。我见过这枚1936年11月26日巴黎可疑戳出现在两枚西班牙邮商售品。这枚巴黎可疑戳尚未被法国专家 (aiep-experts.net/ experts/) 鉴定。西班牙邮商在Delcampe买巴黎明信片，从交易记录可以追溯到西班牙邮商的其他账户。

第三，两位易趣买家投诉，他用西班牙语回复。

Estafador! (西班牙语) 翻译骗子！

Fraud! (英语). 翻译骗子！

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