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发表于 2021-8-14 17:23 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
本帖最后由 ngsunyu 于 2021-8-14 17:33 编辑


1. 奥兰。 2. 亞美尼亞。 3. 巴西。4. 保加利亚。5. 中国。 6. 台北。
7. 古巴。  8. 捷克。  9. 芬兰。 10.  法国。11.  德国。12. 大不列颠 。
13. 希腊。14.  香港。 15. 意大利。16.  以色列。 17. 卢森堡。 18. 马来西亚。
19. 摩纳哥。20.  新喀里多尼亞 。 21. 罗马尼亚。22. 俄国。 23. 圣皮埃尔和密克隆。24.  斯洛文尼亚。
25.  西班牙 。  26. 土耳其。 27. 美国。
 楼主| 发表于 2021-8-14 17:25 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 ngsunyu 于 2021-8-14 17:27 编辑

缺席国家:   安道尔。奥地利 , 比利时, 加拿大, 南韩, 墨西哥, 荷兰, 波兰, 葡萄牙, 圣马力诺, 瑞士, 梵蒂冈。

开倒车政权(关了网站,省了年度报告)墨守成规,拒绝个人替代缺席国家:   奥地利, 比利时, 梵蒂冈。
自相矛盾, 新喀里多尼亞候选作品是法国人制。
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-8-14 17:29 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2021-8-14 18:39 | 显示全部楼层
中国的参选片 ,为什么选这张,一看就不行,全对位的片看上去最呆板,最无趣。极限片是视觉的艺术,不是追求全对位,也不是追求片有多珍罕;个人愚见,不喜勿喷。
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发表于 2021-8-14 21:27 | 显示全部楼层


多谢吴老师!  发表于 2021-8-18 17:52
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-8-15 01:20 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 ngsunyu 于 2021-8-15 01:22 编辑

2020年度世界最佳极限片中国台湾省候选作品遗憾不选择金鱼 by FISH。小琉球花瓶岩和屏东相隔39公里的陆地加上几乎相同距离的汪洋大海。
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发表于 2021-8-15 12:34 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 香港女孩 于 2021-8-15 13:38 编辑

quick response

1. with the information given, many delegates would not be able to vote in accordance with the rules or the 7 things that they were asked to pay attention to. For instance, Hong Kong cancellation are available for one day only while many other cancellation are available for days, months or even longer?

2. I agree that if delegates fail to submit a card, other creators should be able to enter their own cards.

3. like beauty pageants, the entrants are the ones who are put forward. Many real beauties continue to be low profiled.

4. I confess I have no knowledge as to why the Goldfish is related to Kaishuing.
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-8-15 14:54 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 ngsunyu 于 2021-8-15 15:23 编辑
香港女孩 发表于 2021-8-15 12:34
quick response

1. with the information given, many delegates would not be able to vote in accorda ...

Irrational response.
1. You are expecting too much. Most delegates are politicians. If they read the job descriptions and pertinent documents, they won’t be who they are.
Two examples of problematic winners in 2013 and 2018, please read 土耳其极限片 : 错误组合 与 赝品 #82 to #86. Even winners did not follow the “rule” of The degree of the visual concordance of the 3 elements of the MC.
The truth of the matter is the seven “rules” are never binding, they are mere guidance for the delegates to vote as they please.
2. That would run counter to self interest. The fewer the number of participants, the better odds for biased voting ie voting for who the creator is. The decline in interest also would please certain “enemies” of maximaphily. 开倒车is their goal 关了网站,省了年度报告 is their action.
3. Beauty pageant of apple, orange, pineapple, and twenty others?
4. Goldfish is unrelated to Kaishuing but it has no location specificity. The rock does require cancellation on the 小琉球 island  .  The point is most delegates who voted for this rock won’t know where 屏东 is. FISH used Kaishuing cancel perhaps because Taipei postmark is not pictorial. In that sense, rock MC is non-compliant under the the rule #2 The degree of the cancellation text /concordance.!!! But goldfish would be exempt, the same exemption would apply for Bruce Lee.
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发表于 2021-8-15 18:25 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 香港女孩 于 2021-8-15 18:33 编辑

Thanks for your insight.

https://theculturetrip.com/asia/ ... gs-most-famous-son/

Parts of his movies were filmed in Hong Kong. He lived for some time  and died in Hong Kong.

Btw, when I first started creating articles, I had discussion as to whether pictorial cancellation has to follow the rules of concordance of place. Surprisingly many seasoned collectors believed there was no need to observe the concordance of place until  after years of my persuasion.
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发表于 2021-8-15 18:38 | 显示全部楼层
Btw when I first started, I had to spend years before senior collectors agree that even pictorial cancellation has to follow the rules of concordance of place.
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-8-15 23:38 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 ngsunyu 于 2021-8-16 07:02 编辑

You are right. pictorial cancellation has to follow the rules of concordance of place. The distinction  here is the difference between immobile objects including rock, building, etc versus mobile person, art work, goldfish etc.

Bruce Lee travelled to many cities including Hollywood and San Francisco. Some pet owner like you may relocate from Taipei to Kaohsiung and bring your pet goldfish with you by car or train. That piece of rock will stay on 小琉球  until it collapses due to erosion.

Furthermore goldfish is art work and 花瓶石 is photo representation of the real rock, not an art work. If  花瓶石 is painting on postcard then 屏东 is OK.
One example Rouen cathedral photo maximum card must have Rouen postmark but Claude Monet’s painting of Rouen Cathedral can be cancelled in Paris because several such paintings are in the Musee d’Orsay.

Lastly do you know that 屏东 is not on  小琉球 without looking it up on google map? How many delegates have been to 屏东 or 小琉球? How many will research map locations?
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-8-17 02:15 | 显示全部楼层
2020年度世界最佳极限片德国 候选作品遗憾不选择更和谐的明信片。德国邮政的 2020年12月17日贝多芬受洗 250周年纪念戳更接近他的生日。
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-8-22 00:07 | 显示全部楼层
2020年度世界最佳极限片英国候选作品遗憾 IAN 不选择更和谐的明信片。
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-8-22 00:09 | 显示全部楼层
2020年度世界最佳极限片意大利候选作品遗憾意大利极限协会会长选择无高知名度老演员(会长自制)不选择拉斐尔 逝世500周年 纪念或(会员自制?)帕尔马洗礼堂 (意大利語:Battistero di Parma)。意大利邮政提供数量最多的和谐图戳。
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-8-22 00:10 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 ngsunyu 于 2021-8-22 00:15 编辑

2020年度世界最佳极限片摩纳哥候选作品遗憾不选择一級方程式賽車冠軍 車手。选择法国极限协会代制西伯利亚猫。西伯利亚猫不理想,但冰天雪地太荒谬了。摩纳哥没有降雪。摩纳哥属地中海气候,夏季温暖干燥,冬季温和多雨。
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